Some further thoughts… poke root is a potent blood cleaner. Dandelion and burdock potent liver cleaners. Organic air dried coffee enemas (tho some disagree) have a potent action on the liver due to bile release, bile being the body’s magic cleansing agent. Anytime someone is full of dead and dying pathogens, they are likely not having 3bowel movements a day and without some sort of therapeutic enema, there would be buildup within the body. Colonics are a fantastic mechanical way to remove bile as well as work on chronic constipation.
Anyone with sepsis in the hospital would need a non hospital caregiver to give doses of anything as it’s unlikely any hospital would allow them. CD can be mixed into daily jars and taken hourly. In Peru and Bolivia during cv, bottles of premixed daily doses were given out in town squares. And again, imo
Mms2 is a powerful, easy to take immune agent that is broken into hypochlorite acid in our stomachs.
Wayne, I'm not a chemist, doctor or researcher and I'm not always a critical thinker. I did reread the study from beginning to end again and my comments follow. As I said in my initial comment, I can really only comment on my experience with CD and HC acid.
Jim humble says CD is a selective oxidizer. if that is the case, it's just about the most useful disinfectant available to us. the FDA has made it almost impossible to buy which in my book is a strong testimonial in its favor.
The Universal Antidote (which is allegedly what NASA called CD in the 80's tho I cannot verify) telegram channel has dozens of thousands of members posting about their experiences using both mms1 and 2. I read them for about a year and can't remember ever reading one that had harmful results. possibly the channel is not valid. I do not know. my nursing friend who introduced me to CD has said that she has never found a study showing anyone has been harmed by its use.
if the man in the study was a 'chronic user', we have no idea, and neither did the authors, what his usage was. but their reporting of dosage is suspect to me. again, CDS (chlorine dioxide solution - a much weaker solution than mms) is measured in ml. CD is measured in drops. 10ml is equivalent approximately to about 4 drops per day. this is a very small dosage so calling his intake 'high' is misleading. I can't imagine 4 drops harming anyone. I have a friend who uses it quite successfully with his children.
context is everything. what's the real story on the guy's prior condition, how much did he use, how much was he given and what was really going on in his body. and when you begin to kill off pathogens, expect there to be physical symptoms especially if the bowel isn't moving. how likely is it that this septic patient was moving his bowels daily. when you use CD, EXPECT there to be die off and all pathways of elimination must be open. nausea and diarrhea are the two most common experiences of using too much. cut the dose in half until they are no longer experienced and try again until there is no side effect. (this is not medical advice but my experience)
calling CD bleach is like calling oxygen ozone. the reference list is full of nonsense and obvious scare tactics.
CD IS very irritating to the lungs. there is a protocol for the lungs but it is quite specific. anyone who would breathe in activated CD in large quantities has no. idea how to use it and has spent no time attempting to understand.
my basic modus operandi is to consider seriously anything that I'm told is bad/harmful for me. and to be quite skeptical of anything I'm told is good for me. that's not critical thinking but rather gut instinct.
regarding your list below, hP is not a selective oxidizer so it kills all bacteria, good and bad. since vitamin d has been pushed so hard these past 8 yrs, it's worth considering it might be quite harmful to us. we did the (can't remember Dr's name) high dose vit d therapy with quite negative results. digestive enzymes get a big thumbs up if you can get good ones. iodine too. Used a Brown's gas machine for 3 months with no apparent effects.....
oh Methylene Blue……Jeans dye……that caused havock in my body.
Nigella Sativa…..how much money I spent on Nigella Sativa? A lot. I still have two bottles. This other one caused me problems too. Some from the list I do not know.
non alcoholic bitters might be a very possible help as well. almost every part of our bodies have bitter receptors and they can be amazing in facilitating healing.
How do we know which herbal or compound is suited for each individual? Let’s consider two main point everyone forgets:
1. We are all different the way we respond to pathogens, and palliatives. As I noted above Blood Types can be a determined factor for a successful treatment.
2. We are all damaged differently.
I have experience with herbals and the above mentioned such and MMS. But it sounds so much like trial and error throwing the kitchen sink at it. Reminds me of the lyme disease treatments.
interesting analysis Wayne. I agree on the sepsis. I disagree on the leaky gut across the board but I concur with the relationship between gut biome and sepsis. I think all is connected to stomach acid actually. Could also be why certain blood type (A,-highest hospitalizations all blood types- followed by B and AB with type O -least amount of hospitalizations world wide-in order) were more prone to this covid sepsis than others? In older adults we have a decrease of stomach acid generally speaking which makes them more prone to infections and upper respiratory infections.
My father died of sepsis back in 2014 (listeria complications) but nobody else had it in the family. Dad was type A like me while mother and sister are type O.
Also it could be all the above including leaky gut.
So COVID19 or SARS2 is of bacterial origins. That make perfect sense to me because it is a swap of nomenclature. But how do we explain the younger people having it? Children under 10 or 8? You could say that their gut immune is compromised by vaccination I guess? Especially this generation of overly vaccinated children. My granddaughter was 5 years old then. Remember I told you how her symptoms were different and short lasting?
Some further thoughts… poke root is a potent blood cleaner. Dandelion and burdock potent liver cleaners. Organic air dried coffee enemas (tho some disagree) have a potent action on the liver due to bile release, bile being the body’s magic cleansing agent. Anytime someone is full of dead and dying pathogens, they are likely not having 3bowel movements a day and without some sort of therapeutic enema, there would be buildup within the body. Colonics are a fantastic mechanical way to remove bile as well as work on chronic constipation.
Anyone with sepsis in the hospital would need a non hospital caregiver to give doses of anything as it’s unlikely any hospital would allow them. CD can be mixed into daily jars and taken hourly. In Peru and Bolivia during cv, bottles of premixed daily doses were given out in town squares. And again, imo
Mms2 is a powerful, easy to take immune agent that is broken into hypochlorite acid in our stomachs.
That should have said hypochlorous acid
maria P - please read the case study at the link below and give us your critical comments. thanks
Intestinal perforation associated with chlorine dioxide ingestion: an adult chronic consumer during COVID-19 pandemic
LINK - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8522852/
Wayne, I'm not a chemist, doctor or researcher and I'm not always a critical thinker. I did reread the study from beginning to end again and my comments follow. As I said in my initial comment, I can really only comment on my experience with CD and HC acid.
Jim humble says CD is a selective oxidizer. if that is the case, it's just about the most useful disinfectant available to us. the FDA has made it almost impossible to buy which in my book is a strong testimonial in its favor.
The Universal Antidote (which is allegedly what NASA called CD in the 80's tho I cannot verify) telegram channel has dozens of thousands of members posting about their experiences using both mms1 and 2. I read them for about a year and can't remember ever reading one that had harmful results. possibly the channel is not valid. I do not know. my nursing friend who introduced me to CD has said that she has never found a study showing anyone has been harmed by its use.
if the man in the study was a 'chronic user', we have no idea, and neither did the authors, what his usage was. but their reporting of dosage is suspect to me. again, CDS (chlorine dioxide solution - a much weaker solution than mms) is measured in ml. CD is measured in drops. 10ml is equivalent approximately to about 4 drops per day. this is a very small dosage so calling his intake 'high' is misleading. I can't imagine 4 drops harming anyone. I have a friend who uses it quite successfully with his children.
context is everything. what's the real story on the guy's prior condition, how much did he use, how much was he given and what was really going on in his body. and when you begin to kill off pathogens, expect there to be physical symptoms especially if the bowel isn't moving. how likely is it that this septic patient was moving his bowels daily. when you use CD, EXPECT there to be die off and all pathways of elimination must be open. nausea and diarrhea are the two most common experiences of using too much. cut the dose in half until they are no longer experienced and try again until there is no side effect. (this is not medical advice but my experience)
calling CD bleach is like calling oxygen ozone. the reference list is full of nonsense and obvious scare tactics.
CD IS very irritating to the lungs. there is a protocol for the lungs but it is quite specific. anyone who would breathe in activated CD in large quantities has no. idea how to use it and has spent no time attempting to understand.
my basic modus operandi is to consider seriously anything that I'm told is bad/harmful for me. and to be quite skeptical of anything I'm told is good for me. that's not critical thinking but rather gut instinct.
regarding your list below, hP is not a selective oxidizer so it kills all bacteria, good and bad. since vitamin d has been pushed so hard these past 8 yrs, it's worth considering it might be quite harmful to us. we did the (can't remember Dr's name) high dose vit d therapy with quite negative results. digestive enzymes get a big thumbs up if you can get good ones. iodine too. Used a Brown's gas machine for 3 months with no apparent effects.....
Here is a list of alternative anti-viral protocols from Dr. Mumby's book Virus Blitz
1. Hydrogen peroxide
2. Vitamin D
3. Digestive enzymes
4. Butylated Hydroxytoluene
5. Ozone oxygen on steroids
6. Molecular Hydrogen
7. Quinton Marine Plasma
8. Zinc and Ionophores
9. Iodine
10. Methylene Blue Dye
11. Nigella Sativa
I selected more well known anti-virals as they all could not be analyzed without writing a book
oh Methylene Blue……Jeans dye……that caused havock in my body.
Nigella Sativa…..how much money I spent on Nigella Sativa? A lot. I still have two bottles. This other one caused me problems too. Some from the list I do not know.
non alcoholic bitters might be a very possible help as well. almost every part of our bodies have bitter receptors and they can be amazing in facilitating healing.
You are a fountain of info. Thanks
How do we know which herbal or compound is suited for each individual? Let’s consider two main point everyone forgets:
1. We are all different the way we respond to pathogens, and palliatives. As I noted above Blood Types can be a determined factor for a successful treatment.
2. We are all damaged differently.
I have experience with herbals and the above mentioned such and MMS. But it sounds so much like trial and error throwing the kitchen sink at it. Reminds me of the lyme disease treatments.
interesting analysis Wayne. I agree on the sepsis. I disagree on the leaky gut across the board but I concur with the relationship between gut biome and sepsis. I think all is connected to stomach acid actually. Could also be why certain blood type (A,-highest hospitalizations all blood types- followed by B and AB with type O -least amount of hospitalizations world wide-in order) were more prone to this covid sepsis than others? In older adults we have a decrease of stomach acid generally speaking which makes them more prone to infections and upper respiratory infections.
My father died of sepsis back in 2014 (listeria complications) but nobody else had it in the family. Dad was type A like me while mother and sister are type O.
Also it could be all the above including leaky gut.
So COVID19 or SARS2 is of bacterial origins. That make perfect sense to me because it is a swap of nomenclature. But how do we explain the younger people having it? Children under 10 or 8? You could say that their gut immune is compromised by vaccination I guess? Especially this generation of overly vaccinated children. My granddaughter was 5 years old then. Remember I told you how her symptoms were different and short lasting?