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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

The entire bible is fantasy mixed with parts of real events for propaganda and emperor worship. Starting with Roman emperor Vespasian the emperor was addressed as God. The historians of New Testament era were all paid propagandists. Today in worshipping Jesus, Christians are worshipping Caesar. I am nonetheless a Christian because like ancient Rome, I am against Judaistic legalism, circumcision and mutilation of children and the autistic adults, against usury and hedging, against lack of conscience and guilt, against being last so Romans (or Yahoodi’s) can be first, against loving enemies, and against perpetual war.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

From what has been revealed by independent scholar Joe Atwill, ancient religious scriptures were propaganda controlled by elites who were the only class who could manufacture books, hire scribes, and make papyrus. So I would not put much credence in any ancient scripture prior to the printing press in 1500’s.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Excellent distillation of your 100+ library collection on the topic.

It might have been John Lash who said that the original spelling was Godspells.

That a bit too much reality to take without a water-chaser.

The Pacified Messiah is a compelling argument because Messchiach means: Warrior King. The only warrior about this is the Obi Wan Kenobi moment of letting Darth Vader cut him down so that he could 'help' as a disembodied spirit.

Even Lucas' light sabers were modeled after the rotating scimitars of light that the gaurds at the garden of Eden wielded.

The Subtext that you skillfully wove through all of this is the endless referral to HIGHER POWERS. Yesus, the supposed God Incarnate was always invoking the Wait Until Your Father Comes Home appeal to the child mind that there is always something bigger and scarier awaiting them.

Your thesis has all of the construction of a tenured academian. I say that with respect because I'm not really fond of learning assylums.

Thanks for posting.

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artermix's avatar

I never watched an entire movie of that saga.

I dont consider it sci fi either...more like fairy tale w special effects

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Me neither. There is a category called Scifi FANTASY.

I quit writing scifi when I realized that you can't make shit up that outdoes what we are told is called Reality.

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artermix's avatar

Man isnt that the truth? My dad used to say that reality always surpasses the truth.

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

I'm so glad that you posted this Wayne! You made it easy to digest & I'm sure it will help many gleem hope & FREEDOM from the CONstruct of religiousity & churchianity.

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OK's avatar

Thank you. Your short article succinctly summarized the purposeful obfuscation of true history. The tremendous amount of research you must done saved me much time.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Watch a video of Joe Atwill on YouTube if you want more. But I do have, what?, over 100 books on the subject of the origins of Christianity. Put differently, Christianity is a Psy Op that failed initially because the Israelites just went back to mass murdering but by 325 AD Christianity was used by Constantine as its mandatory religion. Constantine used Christianity to create serfdom, to take all land from serfs, to take their children to repopulate other areas, to forceably draft men into the military, and fight unecessary wars of power fights with other oligarchs.

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all-rights-reserved's avatar

As a ffollower of Joe Atwillvvs great series of podcaats with Timothy Kellyy I have heard of Joe's "Cesars Messia"..

I follow Clif High a lot for similar reasons: To get insights and training in critical thinking and inspiration for sorce material etc..

As well Ammon Hillman talks on the Bibel and both delve deep into orriginal source texts in its nattive language..

They cllaim it is obvious the Bibel waas written first in Greek and later renderesd "Hebrew" and sources in Greek swept away or such..

Also Sanskritt and Avastan (in Nepalese abbey libraries 4000 yo texxts) source texts is on Clif's menu..

I did not yet myself take the time to delve into it myself..

Both Clif and Ammon have interesting angles vut differ wodely in how they go aboit it..

I gladly give Joe the benefit of my dout he have lots of good points etc..

Clif is onto "cargo cult hijacked desert yemeniti ant cient tribes got a tech and bbio-hack prone alien race lord Jahve whom traumatized and Stockholm syndromed tthe" Israelites" and turned them into useful idiots.. Bla bla on it goes - I sense some reason in Clif's go at it - spurces to check and catch onto his drill is another dime though.. Not done by me yet..

Ammon has a neat ancient Greek language take on it and is fascinating as well..

Just my musings meandering here..

Thanks for your effort Wayne!

You are a treat!

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David Westerlund's avatar

Reading comments, there is NO record of j.c. before ~300, except in the Bible. J.c. was/is a myth to control the masses for the sake of joos. The GR8st lie in history.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Yes. What about Marcion’s New Testament?

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David Westerlund's avatar

Never heard of "...Marcion....".

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Mahwah Azet's avatar

… never heard either

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Mahwah Azet's avatar

… Ancient Chinese writings mentioned a person JC. The Chinese (as far as I heard) has not changed since then because they use “pictographs “…

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artermix's avatar

I like this reading. But I insist thay the root of many evils is monotheist religion.

Listen to how it sounds....

Narcisistic.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

This was sent to me after posting Wayne's Stack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdbJsgOw0Q

3:33 now I'd like to tell you what the beginning of the second film was supposed to look like where we would have learned the history of the THS on earth like the first movie it would have started with a brief history of a planet only this time instead of Mars it would focus on Earth around 2,000 years ago people witnessed a peculiar Celestial phenomenon that foretold the arrival of the THS a bright blue light in the sky resembling a star but far brighter than other a blue beam descended from the Heavens to the Earth's surface and along this beam came three disciples and their goddess Isa short for Jesus they came to humanity to oversee its development and reveal their truth long ago these visitors had given humans religion knowledge and Sacred Scriptures

***** expecting Humanity to strictly follow their teachings the goddess isa's ultimate plan was to enslave Humanity through religion a method of control that had proven highly effective on Mars *****

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Anyone catching the Blue Beam? from the early 1900s?

Edgar Rice Crispies was FAMILY telling the same old story.

Even had Jesus as a Tranny.

Anyone else catching a chill that the message and the agenda has NEVER changed for MILLENNIA?

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wörterbuch's avatar

The son of man was girt about the paps (greek mastos=female breasts) with a golden girdle. Rev 1:13

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Paps Blue Ribbon

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artermix's avatar

If....the red planet is even a real thang. That is the beauty of the sim system of whatchmecallit you wanna call it....when you think you have figured it out there is a sim iside the sim.....inside the sim.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

That's where the massive head-fuck begins.

I've 'seen' mars and jupiter and 4 moons and saturn and its rings though my horrible 4-inch telescope. I can't imagine how Galley Lay Yo got such detailed drawings using his homemade spyglass.

Just because I saw them doesn't mean that I know what they are, where they are or if they are projections of the grand planetarium or not. That planetarium projector has been bumped a few times, which reminds me I have a Stack to assemble but it is just so much work.

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artermix's avatar

Above as below......it is a game of mirrors. Only we are microbes.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

OOOooooooooo ! Can I be a bad microbe like Prince what'shisass wanted to be?

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