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artermix's avatar

Connective tissues is eaten by Borrelia Burgdoferi (lyme disease). Borrelia genus not really a bacteria but shares 40% DNA with syphillis....good old Treponema. We must all have it. We have syphillis or some attenuated form that we got from hundreds of years of vaccinations.....I did not get the small pox vaccine but my parents did.

We know that syphillis is transmissible. A disease that gives sympthoms across generations. I bet Alzhaimers might be one of them.

So the question here is not what exactly is but how some people seem to mount a response that does not seem to deplete collagene. Or perhaps these people have other issues.

Patrick and I have chatted extensively on this topic. Seem all diseases go back to good old syphillis, herpes...and i guess small pox.

My biggest pet peeve us that even in aseptic enviroments seems that contagion of these diseases was still possible. NOT SYPHILLIS....but the covid for example.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

You write questions that only perhaps Pat can adequately reply to. I dragged out all his books doing the research for this article to see if it would shed any light on Daniels' approach. I'm writing some sequels to this so keep the comments coming.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

My supportive response to what you are investigating got so big that I'm going to link this Stack on my Stack with my line-item response to what you wrote.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Your website would not take my response so I'm leaving it here.

Pat - Your response is so far ranging I don't know where to begin and beyond my competence or experience levels.

Daniels interview is from 2+ years ago before the VAERS data became available, so stating she was unclear about it at that point is understandable to me.

When I speak of someone else's work I don't try to inject my views into theirs. I just want to accurately relate their position and leave it there.

I am delighted to give you a chance to provide your views on the virus issue.

I have been gravitating for some time to a position or preference of dismissing most of anything at the microscopic level when it comes to understanding health or disease. Keeping it at the organic level (organs) is all I want to know - how does this affect my kidney, liver, etc.? Everything else requires such a leap of faith for me that I just fade out.

As you well know I am on a steep learning curve. I'm exploring a dark room wearing a blindfold and all I can do is touch something and describe it and ask others what it might be. Plato's cave only with not even shadows on the wall from fire.

Even with those limits stated, I started writing on COVID matters because I realized I could write and analyze at least as badly as most on either side of the issue. I can do that bad at least. By doing so I'm force feeding myself to learn for my own edification.

I have no one left to take care of me after having been caregiver for 5 most of my life. So I have to figure out how to mount my own response and go to heaven on my own without going to a hospital. I had a technical heart attack in 2010 with no damage but a triponin protein level barely over qualifying as heart attack. At that time I made bad decision of stent. Of course it was all stress related.

No matter what we know and who cares/not cares for us, stress and cortisol seem to overtake everything one can do. Witness my former fiancee (cancer) and twin brother (sepsis heart attack). So, I'm more concerned about stress than spirochetes. More concerned about the functioning of my organs than spirochetes. More about being healthy enough to allow my body to control any spirchetes.

I'm in the process of writing a piece on the Virus/No Virus camps and how I find both deficient, mainly because it is an ideological war over the spoils of power and privilege. Neither are dealing with the sufferers. The No Virus crowd has the same nostrums they roll out for everything - nebulizers, Ivermectin, curcumin, zinc, mega vit. C, the synthetic D hormone they think is not synthetic, etc. Just like the corporations have one bullet gun of vaxxes. The Virus camp is rolling out vaxxes because antibiotics are becoming obsolescent and they want to convince everyone of the vax to keep their income streams. They have been successful atit for 100 years despite zero results by wielding control of media and government.

If, say, the virulence is from spirochetes (uncurable) or from deficient connective tissue (only collagen works), or a virus (Hobson's choice of the vax), none are remedies but just different hammers to hit the proverbial nail.

More later.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

Mel Thornberg said that Herpesvirales order of organisms were Spirochete Dandruff.

This includes: HSV1 and 2, chicken pox and shingles, EBV, HHV 6 and 7, KAPOSI'S SARCOMA of AIDS fame, HPV, SMALLPOX IS A HERPES VIRUS, as is SV40, CMV, MONKEY POX and all of the other weapons they injected us with.

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artermix's avatar

So when we are told that we get herpes from sexual relations, like mono from kissing and that men cannot be tested for Herpes…. Are all those lies or a bit from column A and a bit from column B? I recall having warts on my hands at the young age of 8. And .." No I did not have sexual relationship with that woman!!” as Bill Clinton once said.

But I got the polio vaccine. I think that vaccine came also with a booster back in the late 60’s and early 70’s.

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Patrick Jordan's avatar

We have to defer to Mel Thornberg's conclusions and stop talking with the language that was given to us.

VACCINES INJECT SPIROCHETES INTO US. How could they not since they are made with bovine serum?

With the spriochetes come the VIRAL DANDRUFF.

It's always been about cause/effect chicken/egg.

The Polio Shat has not only syphilis = spirochete but the HPV 18 cancer causing papilloma virus = warts that was what Henrietta Lacks had.

In a sense we did get all of these dred diseases from sex:

The moment we got shot = we were fucked!

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artermix's avatar

She reccomends to eat pigs feet .......and other gelatinous type of connective tissue foods.

The very thing the bible, quaran and talmud thell you to AVOID.

What is the MOA of collagen intake.

Why from suine? How is it absorbed?

Is it because suine shares a lot more DNA with humans? Ylu are eating a bit of human too.

If opioids feeds herpes would not collagen feed it too??

I guess it is the eternal question of feeding or starving the monster inside us right???

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Collagen metabolism reportedly works by the amino acid glycine converting glucose into energy. The more lean muscle the faster the metabolism. I have a body chemistry that is on a see--saw and swings between making oxalate crystals from Vit. C and aspergillus fungus in the liver to making pseudo-gout crystals from acidity, citric acid and protein. Taking Vitamin C boosts collagen metabolism but I have to limit how much I take and avoid fungal foods and dairy and on the other hand foods that have high purines that make uric acid like peas, asparagus, red meat, etc. Eating liquid amino acids (from coconut) offers another option because protein is not available for hours after eating but with all aminos working together proteins are available in about 20 minutes.

I've only read one book on your favorite old boyfriend the TICK disease.

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artermix's avatar

You could take vitamin C from fruits only no?? Instead of the synthetic form which probablyis not absorbed the same way. Would that also cause you crystal forming?

I also had that issue btw.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

I forgot to mention that glycine makes oxalate crystals.

Yes, I get C from acerola cherries but no more than say 50 mg at a time every four hours as the unused part gets jettisoned out of the body every 4. Oxalate and Uric Acid Crystals are both metabolites (non-nutrients) leftover after metabolism - not protein, fat or carb. This has helped me understand Jennifer Daniels' organic approach (meaning having to do with organ functions). Understanding vitamins and minerals and even food is of limited use to me until I understood how ox and urate crystals are made in the liver at 3 am each day and figuring out how I can interrupt this chemical plant from making crystals.

For example, many COVID patients upon autopsy after death are described as having glassy chards in their lung -- that likely is oxalate or urate crystals not some strange spooky way the body is being taken over by aliens or whatever with graphene crystals (which is really benigh graphite).

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

What do you think of absorbyl palmitate for C?

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artermix's avatar

I do not know enough about it Wayne…. Except that it is an ester. I never took it. I always took Ascorbic Acid and high doses especially when I did bee venom therapy. I won’t touch vitamin C (synthetic form) anymore. I have a grapefruit a day and fruit. That should supply enough daily vitamin C

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Jeannettecally Modified's avatar

💯 on 🎯

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Good, True & Beautiful's avatar

Could you/one make a good gelatinous stock from chickens, (feet) or other poultry and what about oxtail, that’s always very gelatinous too.

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Well, there is bottled pigs feet and ham hocks preserved in saline solution. Pigs feet look like the human hand and thus are often visually repulsive. I won't tell you what the gelatinous tail of a pig looks like - but you can guess. Or you can buy a number of beef, chicken and pork gelatin powders. Maybe the best way is to supplement with collagen peptides which are building blocks of collagen. Stay tuned to Machiavellian Man because I am working on a sequel to this article where COVID can be explained as a man-made "skin disease" and is akin to the Biblical leprosy which is not caused nor cured by antibiotics but by deficiency of Vitamin D (and B-1).

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MaxxNY's avatar

Dr Jennifer Daniels is great. Some girl who was triple vaxx gave me a wet kiss on the cheek and she deliberately did this to make me sick and unfortunately it might be working. Some women are vindictive like this especially if you've pissed them off or something. Anyways I wasn't vaccinated and I'm experiencing a lot of what you're talking about lung issues, shortness of breath. My joints also seem to be affected with the connective issue but I've started taking collagen. I'm still looking for the baby calf liver that Jennifer recommends. I eat a lot of butter and eggs. But they don't build up the collagen around your joints.

Excellent post thank you very much

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Wayne Lusvardi's avatar

Thanks Maxx for joining the conversation. I always try and write original stuff.

You might rub some hydrogen peroxide topically on your whole body to oxygenate and detox to see if it works for you.

Daniels organic approach (organs liver, kidney, skin) is similar to that of Henry Beiler MD, Robert Willner MD, and JH Tilden MD. I prefer practitioners that learned from their patients not researchers and academics or independent researchers divorced from feedback from real people.

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